Saturday, October 25, 2014

Untitled 30 (Saturday Life #28) 25 October 2014

Me: Hey dude.. were you not into my vocal ideas? N_ said he felt like my ego was getting in the way or something.. we had a pretty gnarly argument last night.. so I was just curious. I hope you know that you can tell me 3:48 PM
J_: Yeah i kinda felt a little stepped on in some areas 5:04 PM
Me: Oh sorry dude. I wish you mentioned it to me. I don't really like hearing about it from another source :) 5:23 PM
J_: Well... Thats not what happened. I didnt go bitch to n_ about it behind your back man. 5:28 PM
Me: Well N_ mentioned it and I just wish you would have brought it up to me. 5:29 PM
J_: N_ brought it up because thats the way he felt. He talked to me about it and i agreed. He basically talked to you about it before i could. 5:32 PM
Me: Oh, gotcha. I just wish you could have brought it up when it happened. It makes it seem like it's something that's been building up for a while. Like maybe you didn't want me in the band or something? 5:36 PM
J_: (1/4) Its not that. Its just like i dont feel like you take my critisism very well. I get a very passive agressive vibe after trying to say something like "i 5:50 PM
J_: (2/4) dislike that vocal line or that bass line" there have been times in the past were i will finally say something and then later on in the practice i will 5:50 PM
J_: (3/4) ask you to do some "oohs" and then when we go to play it you like will start these "ahs" and sometimes i really cant tell if its just a mistake or if 5:50 PM
J_: (4/4) your doing it on purpose... Same goes with some bass critiqing iv said in the past. 5:50 PM
Me: Yeah, I'm sorry about that, but I don't really hear the parts you want me to do, I hear the parts I want to do. That's just how I approach music making. I'll take advice, but I'm not sure any of it fits. Like in the songs you've already written, I'd like to add my part and make it a song we've written. I understand if you don't like that, definitely, but that's my approach to being in a band with original music. 5:55 PM
Me: It's like a painting with three painters.. if you're telling me what to paint, I don't want to be involved, you know? 5:56 PM
Me: I'm sorry I've never brought this up, but that's how I feel. I guess I was being a bit passive in that I didn't bring it up to you, but I swear I wasn't trying to sabotage songs or anything.. I'm just trying to find my part, and I part I like. 5:59 PM
J_: (1/2) Well i enjoy most of your style, and i agree with your approach, but i dont always like your ideas. In terms of painting, say im trying to paint a snowy 6:00 PM
J_: (2/2) day and you start painting a sun or a dry palm tree. You know what i mean? 6:00 PM
Me: For sure.. So in the ideal band you come up with a snowy palm tree :) Or something like that.. All of my ideas are open to opinion, and I'm willing to try your ideas more if you are more insistent about it, but ultimately if I'm not liking something, I can't get behind it. But please, we should definitely talk about it as it's happening. Be more open to discussing it during practice, etc. Spend time talking about it and stuff. 6:04 PM
Me: We all come from such different places musically that it's going to take work to make us all happy. Definitely. I'm willing to work on it for sure. 6:05 PM
J_: (1/3) Dude it doesnt take that much work to make n_ and i happy. And no my ideal band is not were i create the entire picture myself. Its all about 6:14 PM
J_: (2/3) supporting the music and loving it as an art. Playing music together shouldnt take more work than it already has. It should be more free flowing, i dont 6:14 PM
J_: (3/3) wanna take a week to complete one song because everybodys ideas just keep clashing. 6:14 PM
Me: Alright. Well I think I'll quit then. I love you, I hope we can stay friends, but I think we have fundamental differences in music philosophy. 6:22 PM
J_: Ok man well it is up to you. I def want to stay friends. I love you too man 6:24 PM
Me: Yeah, I think it's for the best. :) 6:25 PM
J_: I agree. Honestly i feel like your more of an axe guy. I see you being the guitarist for more of a wilhem scream type band 6:27 PM
Me: Hopefully one day! Haha 6:28 PM
J_: I will stage dive at all your shows 6:29 PM
Me: :) 6:33 PM
J_: I hope i didnt make any hard feeling s 6:43 PM
Me: No dude, all is well :) 6:48 PM
J_: Ok cool 6:49 PM

No, no hard feelings.  Don't you think I'd stay in the band and be your sycophant if I wasn't prepared for the post-Fizzgig life? :)  No offense man, but your style and philosophy on music is haggard.

Oh yeah, so I quit a band :)

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